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Geoff Campbell's avatar

Well…it was the Air Force when I followed the stories…

SeniorTrender's avatar

Thats a fair callout, although it would appear that the Air Force, Navy, and Army have their own programs that relate to advanced technologies and NHI. This topic isnt tied to a specific branch or agency in the government.

Geoff Campbell's avatar

Well...long time ago there was Project Bluebook...and that was essentially a collection of public UFO sightings...and also about that time, US Air Force was leading in testing experimental aircraft... The old 2 and 2 method leads one to believe they shared data ...

Alex Katz's avatar

Fellas, I don’t want to derail your post, but wanted to update y’all on my research re: the identity of the USAF SES-2 gatekeeper referenced in the Mellon signal chat.

I finally reached out to Chris Sharp to get his input and presented him with the info that has convinced me that Russell Wyler is the AF GK. I honestly

wasn’t expecting much, so his response has me PUMPED!

Bout to DM y’all with the screenshot of our convo (with Chris’s permission of course).

Alex Katz's avatar

Bravo gentlemen! This is the kind of research that gets me hyped🫨

The Barnes material is massively undervalued in the Disclosure community, and my hunch is that it will continue to bear fruit as time goes on.

Were y’all able to find anything else re: the crash retrieval in Lawton near Ft. Sill? Was there any written material from TB before it got wiped from DPI?

SeniorTrender's avatar

Theres a lot of noise to filter out from the TB docs as Greer mixed in a lot of random non-related photos and aspects to the testimony unfortunately.

Im not convinced a crash retrieval happened near ft sill at all but do think its still on the table as a potential location for legacy program reverse engineering efforts.

Alex Katz's avatar

Don’t get me wrong, one has to have a healthy handful of salt when investigating cases connected with Greer.

But…taking that into account, I still think we are sitting on some further potentially “actionable” information.

Abbas Michael Dharamsey's avatar

Check the GitHub page link! All of the DPI docs before Greer removed them are there. There was nothing definitive regarding Lawton besides the hand written notes (allegedly written by a senate staffer). But, I think we have an opportunity to FOIA Barnes’ travel docs for this investigation to find out more…

So many threads to pull on haha

Curious Explorer's avatar

Abbas, where is the Github page link? I couldn't find it anywhere in the article.

Abbas Michael Dharamsey's avatar

The nice “view” is here https://opensourceanomalous.github.io/151958850.github.io/ but we removed the references to Greer’s docs there. But you can still find them here https://github.com/OpenSourceAnomalous/151958850.github.io just note the GitHub PDF viewer truncates the pages so it’s Easier to download the whole file.

Eschaton's avatar

Major fly in the ointment here is that Barnes is already outed as a military police disinfo agent (same as Doty): https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1empny5/profiling_michael_herreras_insider_an/

UAP Gerb interviewed Barnes. He names him TB in his video, which was since removed from Youtube. Interestingly, through this interaction, we can learn a lot more about Barnes. According to Gerb’s account, Barnes:

- Denied ever contacting Greer

- Denied he had knowledge of SAPs

- Claimed he was being treated for unspecified “memory problems”

It’s worth examining these points in detail.

- Denied contacting Greer: this is contradicted by the files on DPI Archive showing emails from Barnes to Greer, and the letter Greer showed during a presentation that is from Barnes.

- Denied he had knowledge of SAPs: we know for certain that Barnes was read into SAPs and USAPs. He claims this multiple times in his book, which has nothing to do with UAPs and is written for a general audience. This is a clear and provable lie.

- “Memory problems”, as well as being a classic of the accountability avoidance genre, does not ring true. This is someone who published an in-depth memoir featuring a myriad of stories, names, locations, and other details just two years ago. His first contact with Greer was made in 2018, well before publication of the book.

SeniorTrender's avatar

That is not my view on it at all. It's more likely that he initially reached out to Greer back in 2018 with good intentions to disclose and get the weight off his chest, and therefore told the truth. This then led to some kind of threat being leveled at him, after which Barnes backed out, not wanting to go public and put himself and his family at risk.

He would have been better served not responding to Gerb at all in the first place, but denying everything is standard procedure in WUSAP program protection. That doesn't mean he's a "disinfo agent" with his comments made to Gerb but rather tried to undue his original mistake of speaking loosely with Greer, however that completely blew up once his un-redacted communications/documents were posted publicly on the DPI Archive.